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Huuuhhaa!!   I went to jump school right after OCS, spent about a year in schools (Officer Basic and follow on schools) then sent out to Germany to Hanau.  I was an Avionics/Armament Repair Platoon leader for a AVIM maintenance battalion.  I was the only NON-rated officer (I was Signal) in the entire battalion!  Got several hours bootleg flight time in Hueys and Cobras... (it was the age of dinosaurs!) as the Blackhawk and Apache were still being field tested. Went to see Berlin and the wall on one of those USO tours, that was an experience.  PCS'd back to the states, went through the advance course, got rebranched Ordinance and went to another Advance course then to the mighty 101st.  Served with them from 1988 through 1992, was on the advance team to Saudi after Saddam invaded Kuwait and was there through May of 1991.  Came home and got assigned to the Division HQ in the G4's office.  Our commander felt that since we had AIRBORNE in our name, that all officers of the Div staff maintain jump status, so I racked up 28 additional jumps, mostly from Chinooks and Blackhawks, with a few C-141 Hollywood jumps .  Got out in 1992, missed it so much after a career in restaurant management, I signed up as a Civ Contractor and spent a year in Afghanistan running a Dinning Facility in 2012. I currently live in Jackson TN, about 2 hours SW of Clarksville.

 

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Greetings all. (I'm in DHO-6.)   I decided to try my hand at starting my own forum stream. If I don't get flamed too badly, maybe I can present some interesting 'ammo porn' [unclassified data &

[Whew!]  The 'flame' comment was just my forum-cherry being popped, I suppose...   Yeah, me & Craw go waaayyy back in history. We started out playing RISK & PANZER BLITZ & other AH gam

wtfovr (I know what that means!): "I assume you guys also run the wargaming simulators in Korea for UFL..."   Yup, that's us!  I usually get sent to Camp Casey (oh JOY!!!). Matter of fact, I'm the

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SIERRA-HOTEL! Good to establish comms with a fellow warfighter, even though I never did anything but cold war deployments and got all busted up & medically retired one week before Desert Shield became Desert Storm-1.

Anyway, what did you think of the Kwk 36 pen charts I posted on page-6? That's all based on the nomograms developed here - "SOURCE: Based on experiments by American, British and Canadian military establishments." Nomogram page is dated 1 January 1945. The overall document is titled "Effects of Impact and Explosions", dated 12 February 1986. This is also the declassification date of the document, so I'm safe from any 'spillage' Nazi's.

 

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Great data... looks as if the Allies were justified in their fear of the Tiger.  In WoT, the Tiger is relegated to a mid tier Heavy with dubious effectiveness, it would appear that with your "tweaks" the game would fall more in line with real world expectations.  Then again, the game has 60% paper and advanced era tanks.  ANd yes, we need to watch out for those pesky Nazi spies!

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I see what you did there... verrry intearestink... but SCHTOOPID! [Artie Johnson, the German in the bush character on 'Laugh-In']

Cool wartime poster, but I'm presuming (I don't want to 'assume') that you are aware that if the documents aren't properly declassified, I would be liable to be investigated by the DoD or Homeland Security for letting State Secret Information escape to the world wide web. I don't want to risk losing my secret clearance by posting actual classified stuff.

Besides, the soldier on the poster is only a lowly Buck-Sergeant. We had vast herds of those running loose without any adult supervision for decades. I should know: I was one of 'em when I was at Ft Bragg (*AND* a hard-stripe Corporal too).

Dang... I'm old!!!

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Corporal Rick Martin, 5MAY1980.jpg

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A N Y W A Y .  .  . 

Now that I've done the work for the 10,5 cm Kwk (46) L/70 regarding it's 10.5-cm Pzgr rot [AP projectile], how about the next one I do should be a real-world APDS, like maybe this:

 

NATO (German) 105mm APDS

105-mm x 617

DM13, HVAPDS –T

MV: 1,473-mps; 4,832.67-fps (recalculate this for the Lowe 105 gun)
Projectile as fired (with sabot): 5.84-kg; 12.88-lbs

Sub-projectile in flight: 4.02 kg; 8.87-lbs

Tungsten core: 2.73 kg; 6.02-lbs

 

Just sayin'

 

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Read an old REBEL_TEXAN thread about update 9.7 nerfs:

"Penetration of the APDS-T M392 shell for the 10.5 cm L7A1 [M68/Bordkanone/etc.] gun reduced from 268mm to 257mm..." 

Well, using those penetration nomograms I referenced in previous entries, this is how the round *SHOULD* perform against BHN-220-to-330 armor plate (RHA):

I worked this out a couple years back as practice.

 

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105mm M392, APDS-T, Perforation Data.jpg

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Small bit of trivia: The M392 is of United Kingdom manufacture and bears the U.K. designation of L36A1.

Reference:

TM 43-0001-28, dated April, 1994

DISTRIBUTION STATEMENT A: Approved for public release; distribution is unlimited.

 

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Finally got the numbers worked out for the perforation stats on this beastie:

This projectile is about 37% lighter than the previous APCBC-HE-T, so the MV was increased from 3,255.19-fps to 3,738.5-fps. This only takes into account the change in the projectile (+ sabot) weight. This reduced the maximum peak internal pressure by 22.3%, so the amount of propellant can be increased by ~8.35%, for a final MV of 4,050.71-fps.

I'll post the perf data shortly - wifey needs my attention!

 

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Here's the pertinent perforation data for the previous post (above):

The maximum peak pressure remains exactly the same, due to the reduction of the projectile/sabot weight, and the increase of the propellant weight.

 

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105mm, (L70) Kwk 46, DM13, HVAPDS-T, Perforation Data.jpg

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1006964806_3-cmMk103H-PzgrLspuro-ZerlAPCR-T(w)PerforationData.thumb.jpg.820f994f4dff32fc91fec835c6caf55d.jpgThe next candidate for dissection shall be the German 3-cm MK 103 (one of my favorite light tank weapons!)

This little beastie lists its AP ammo as the "3cm Armor-Piercing H-Pzgr. Patr. 103 (w)".

Please note the 'H': this tells us that it has a 'Hart Kern' or 'Hard Core' and it's made of 'Wolfram-Karbid' (Deutsch for Tungsten Carbide). How do we know this? Well... see the '(w)' at the end of the WoT nomenclature? That stands for 'Wolfram/Tungsten'. This supposed AP round is (in reality) what we all know as APCR!!!

[But wait! There's *MORE*!!!]

The AP Composite Rigid has a suspicious '(u)' at the end.

Yup - that stands for URANIUM!!! And not the depleted variety.

The Germans had approximately 1,200-metric tons of unprocessed uranium ore captured in Belgium, in addition to the unused processed Uranium they could 'repurpose' from their nuclear program, so they used it as 'Special' APCR core material, but only against the Russians (apparently).

 

 

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