Jump to content

All Activity

This stream auto-updates     

  1. Last week
  2. Bombaybacon
    https://worldoftanks.com/en/news/game-events/lunar-new-year-2020/ Runs Jan 23-Feb 4.
  3. Voltagesauce
    Marvel Strike Force Beginner’s Guide Last Updated: September 2019 Section 1 - Introduction Hi everyone. I’m Voltagesauce and I have been playing Marvel Strike Force for about 4 months. I just hit level 70 and my total collection power just reached 1M. I am regularly in the top 10 for my Arena shard. My alliance mates thought I was doing pretty well in my first few months, and they told me I should take a crack at putting together a guide for new members since it is fresh in my mind. EDIT: I also decided to create a discord server for beginners (or anyone) that wants to ask questions or talk about the game. I'd love for you to stop by: https://discord.gg/bKAFnJn Section 2 - Why Another Beginner’s Guide? There are a few reasons I thought it might be worth the time to write up a guide. Many available guides are outdated. There are many popular content creators with awesome information, but they have been playing for so long that they haven’t gone through the beginning part of this game recently. The game has changed quite a bit since they first started playing. I wanted to come at it from a bit of a math perspective, to highlight why I think certain options are the most efficient methods. Section 3 - Disclaimers Before we get too far, I want to throw out some disclaimers: I am still new to MSF and even this type of mobile game. This is just my perspective, primarily focused on ranking well in Arena, and using those resources to improve my overall roster. I don’t have many crazy unique strategies for this beginner’s guide. I am going to recommend a lot of the same stuff you see around the internet. I just want to present something organized and up to date. One of the best parts about this game is that it is all about prioritizing and choosing the way you want to play. I want to share some ways I think are effective, but there’s no wrong way to play! I can’t stress this enough: get into a solid alliance when you can. Most people are able to find an alliance that is suitable for them on the MSF discord page. There are a ton of resources available in an alliance (both in game resources from Raids and Alliance Wars, but also for advice and strategy). Or if you need help finding any alliance, there is a recruiting channel on the beginners discord i started recently: https://discord.gg/bKAFnJn Section 4 - Game Basics The most important and basic resource in Marvel Strike Force is the Campaign Energy. This allows for you to farm most of the other resources and provides commander experience. Commander experience is extremely important early on because it allows you to level up and unlock different aspects of the game. Everyone is going to be able to play the game a different amount, but if you want to be as efficient as possible when playing the game, you want to try to level up as fast as possible. There are a few ways to do this. First, you can use all of your Campaign Energy. You get one energy every 5 minutes and the amount of energy you can store increases as you level up. If your energy is full, then you are essentially wasting resources. You get extra energy refreshes three times a day at preset times. You must log in within two hours of the preset time and claim the energy. These are your main ways of collecting free energy. You can also use cores to refresh your energy and most people recommend using the 50 core energy refreshes daily. The other way to level up is to complete the daily objectives. Some of my alliance members wish that they had taken objectives more seriously early on.. They feel that they are falling behind some of the players that started at the same time as them. So why is leveling up so important? First, it allows you to level and power up your characters higher. Second, many aspects of the game are level dependent. Some will take hours or days to unlock, while some will take months. The following are some of those aspects: Challenges Blitz Alliances Raids Arena Campaigns Alliance War Red Stars Dark Dimension Some of these things have more impact on your progress than others, but overall you want to unlock these modes as soon as possible. Most of the modes have rewards that you are not receiving before reaching those levels. Red stars, for example, change your 7 day calendar so that you start receiving 5 red star orbs once a week. The sooner you get there, the sooner you can start getting red stars for your characters and boosting their power. Section 5 - Alliances Finding a good alliance as soon as you unlock alliances is so important. As mentioned in the disclaimers, having an alliance can really set you up. It’s important to find an alliance that has a similar mentality to yours. If you want to be free to play, then find a free to play alliance. If you want to be casual, then find an alliance that isn’t going to ask you to go above and beyond. My alliance is casual but active, and it has been perfect for where I’m at. If you have read this far, you’re probably looking for an active alliance. I would look for an alliance on the MSF discord or on one of the content creators discords. And when you are looking for an alliance you will want one that is actively participating in Raids. You don’t have to find an alliance that always 100% clears the top Raids, but there are a ton of resources rewarded from Raids that can help you catch up. There are many alliances that are willing to take on new players whoare willing to be active and committed to the alliance. It won’t always feel like it at first, but new players can contribute to Raids sooner than expected if they are getting decent rewards. I wouldn’t be where I am at in the game without my alliance taking me in. Section 6 - Prioritizing I like to call this game a “macro level” game. What i mean is that progress is primarily measured in weeks and months, not hours and days. This game is all about choosing which modes and characters to focus on and how long to focus on them. Sometimes, this could mean farming the same characters or gear for months to achieve some goal. I am sure there are a few exceptions, but almost no players are able to power up all of their characters to a competitive level. I call my approach to prioritizing in this game my Funnel System. The first funnel is game modes. I think an effective way to play this game is to essentially rank the game modes you want to focus on. Some of the options are Alliance War, Arena, Blitz, Campaigns, Challenges, Enter the Darkness (EtD), Fear the Darkness (FtD), Flash Events, and Raids. There are also special events that show up, but they are hard to plan for. Additionally, not all of these game modes are available when you first start playing. My top priorities as a beginner have been Arena, Raids and EtD/FtD. I’ll go into why in a bit. The other funnel I see are the characters and/or teams. At the beginning, I think an effective strategy is to choose a team to focus on and pour all of your resources into them until they are ready for the next level resource. An example would be to use all of your blue ability mats on the defenders until they are all maxed out. Then you choose another team that you are ready to give blue mats to. For me, this turns into one overall funnel, pour all of a certain level of resource (like ability mats and gear) into my Arena team, and when they are maxed out I can move onto my Raid teams. Section 7 - Arena Now I’ll get into why I choose to prioritize the modes the way I did: starting with Arena. The way Arena works is you are placed in an Arena “shard” with people that start playing the game at the same time as you. So essentially it is an evenly matched race to the top. If you are able to get to the top you can snowball by generating more resources than your competition. Let’s look at how the rewards for Arena work. Each day at a specific time you get rewards based on your finish: Rank Cores Arena Credits 1 500 1150 2 450 1050 3 400 1000 4-5 350 950 6-10 300 850 11-20 250 750 21-50 200 700 51-100 150 650 101-250 100 550 251-500 75 500 501-1500 60 400 1501-3000 40 300 3001-6000 25 200 6001-10000 10 100 And in graph form: As you can see, both charts are exponential shaped - meaning the rewards are WAY better the closer to the top you get. Comparing rank 1 versus 51 is 350 cores and 500 Arena credits difference. We will get into what you can use resources for later, but anytime you can generate way more resources than your opponent it’s going to help you. That’s why, for me, it’s important to be as close to the top of Arena as possible. Now with Arena being my top focus I want to choose a beginner team that can dominate. This is no surprise if you’ve done any searching or read any other guide - the defenders are typically the team that dominates Arena early on. There are currently four defenders: Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Daredevil, and Jessica Jones. The 5th team member is typically Ms. Marvel or Punisher. Punisher synergizes extremely well with Daredevil and has a farmable node way earlier than Ms. Marvel, so that would be my recommendation. So, why are the defenders so formidable in Arena? First , they are all “easily farmable.” This means their character shards are available to all players early in the game. Punisher, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, and Iron Fist all have nodes early on in the Campaigns. Daredevil is in the Arena store and Luke Cage is in the Blitz store. Second, these characters have a ton of synergy between them. Here are some of the basics that make them strong: Daredevil - Great damage with ult and basic, and special is an “anti AOE” because enemies who use AOE abilities will pretty much kill themselves from all the counters Iron Fist - Main benefit is sustainability. With his passive, he can heal defenders and city heroes at the start of his turn. His special heals his teammates as well. This makes the defenders hard to kill if you don’t burst them down. Jessica Jones - She offers a lot of utility. She provides energy to defenders with her basic and special, which is essential in fights. She also clears negative effects from allies and clears positive effects from enemies. Punisher - Insane damage. Has a massive AOE and can counter everytime Daredevil is attacked. Luke Cage - He protects the rest of the defenders with taunt and defense up. It took me a while to really understand how powerful some of the buffs and debuffs are. Defense up cuts the incoming damage in half and Luke Cage’s ult last for two turns. His taunt also lasts two turns and allows time for Iron Fist to heal everyone back up. To reiterate the funnel system I used:I poured anything and everything I could into the defenders. Before anyone else got a blue ability mat, I made sure all my defenders were maxed. I focused all of my blue gear on the defenders until they started needing purple gear. This was to allow me to maximize my rewards from Arena. A common beginner question is how long to farm defenders. There are many different answers, but I have seen three main philosophies that I will try to explain: Since the defenders fall off later in the game it is just worth farming them to about 5* each, getting them to 6664 and getting to a team power level between 120k-150k. This will allow players to get a good start in Arena and start doing some decent Raids. NOTE: When people say 6664, they mean the basic, special and ultimate abilities are level 6 and the passive is level 4. This is when the purple abilities are maxed out and orange are required. Take all of the defenders to 6* and invest some t4 (orange) ability mats for power levels between 150k-180kish. The main purpose of getting the defenders to 6* is to be able to start EtD. Farm the defenders completely to 7*. Depending on gear levels and how many T4 ability mats a player uses the defenders can be anywhere between 180k and 300k. The main purpose of farming to 7* is to be able to complete the 7th tier of Block Party. I’ll talk about these modes (EtD and Block Party) more in depth later. Ultimately, I chose option 2. I wanted to be able to start EtD as fast as possible, but wanted to focus on some other areas of my roster instead of taking them all the way to 7*. My defenders are about 175k. Once I was happy with where my defenders were at for Arena, I decided to choose my next team. My thought process was to choose a legendary that would be my key character for my next Arena team. The three main options for new players are Nick Fury, Magneto and Starlord. Because legendary events are sporadic, my recommendation would be to choose one of these legendaries and farm them even if I don’t know when the event will come back. Ultimately, I decided to go straight for Starlord. I thought his requirements were pretty easy and liked that I could use him for a lot of other game modes. I made sure I had the requirements completed as soon as I could and the event ended up coming 2-3 months earlier than “predicted”, which worked out well for me. I think a lot of people in my Arena shard missed him on this go because they were waiting until later to farm for him. I am still using my Starlord team in Arena and they can punch up at least 80-90k on the defenders in my shard. Section 8 - Raids the next mode I chose to focus on was Raids. The great part about focusing on the defenders first for Arena is that they are also one of the best Raid teams in the game. It’s basically two birds with one stone (and maybe more). Raids are important because you earn rewards for completing nodes. Depending on how far your alliance gets into the Raid, you get Raid credits, gear, ability mats, gold, character shards, and more. Similar to the defenders, I liked using a Starlord team for Raids because with the right characters they are the best Raid team in the game. I was able to get Minnerva and Vision (no Thanos yet) and I can pretty much complete a whole U6 Raid lane at about 175k power. Section 9 - Dark Dimension (EtD and FtD) The last of my main priorities have been EtD and FtD. These are called “end game” content, but I think with some planning can be completed earlier on. EtD requires 5 characters at 6* yellow stars or higher. I decided to farm my defenders straight to 6* so that I could start this mode as soon as possible. There are no downsides to play this mode everyday, but it may take a while. As I am writing this, I am still finishing up my first run of EtD. The benefits of EtD are some gold and mega orbs, but when you complete it you get a ton of orange gear, which helps set you up for FtD. FtD requires 5 characters at gear level 13. There are a ton of resources about which characters to use for FtD, but I think it makes sense to choose characters that you are already working on. I am planning on using at least Minnerva, Groot and Starlord because it will allow me to do FtD, but also benefit my Arena and Raid teams. If you choose to focus on Magneto for your Arena team then Magneto, Jugg or Pyro could make sense for FtD. Similarly, if you focus on Nick Fury on your team then Fury and SS would make sense. And the main reason for rushing to complete FtD is Ultron. You don’t have to look hard to find everyone calling Ultron the best character in the game. Here are a few quotes from my alliance mates about Ultron: “Ultron is always like F your synergy enemy team” in regards to reliability beating any team in Blitz with a non-synergy Ultron team “You can literally put any 4 characters on to a team with Ultron and win” “His Ultron won us that last war” “I can’t wait for you guys to unlock Ultron. His impact to your roster is just so impressive” “Minnerva is the best character in the game (aside from Ultron)” I think you get the point: people love Ultron, and he can contribute in all modes of the game. That is why I am trying to focus on EtD and then FtD, so I can use Ultron in my Arena team. One of the main things to consider with FtD is that to get characters to gear level 13 you need 12 specific Superior Unique items (for example Minnerva uses Superior Gamma Radiation). They can be found in the Main Supplies, War Supplies and Orange War Orbs. They are very hard to farm and don’t show up in the stores until level 65. I would recommend buying uniques you might want as soon as you start hitting level 65. It is very heavily RNG reliant and can cause a lot of frustration looking for the specific uniques you need. Section 10 - Campaigns The Campaigns are probably my next focus. The nice thing about the Campaigns is that the Heroes and Nexus can be completed by a solid defenders team and the Cosmic can be completed with a Guardians team. I still have not completed the Villains Campaign and just started focusing on the mystic Campaign. Sometimes you have to put a little bit into your teams so that you can get to a node with specific character shards or gear, but overall I don’t feel these are as important as Arena or Raids. Section 11 - Flash Events As of now there are three flash events that show up sporadically, but more often than legendary events: Block Party - Requires 5 City Heroes and earns ability materials. The main reason for getting defenders up to 7* is to complete the last tier of block party. That gives you 150 T4 (orange) ability mats each time the event runs. Payday - Requires 5 Mercenary characters and earns gold. Relic Hunt - Requires 5 Hand characters and earns Advanced Basic Catalysts (required with purple gear). I will probably prioritize getting 5 city heroes up to 7* to start earning the T4 abilities. I don’t have many teams that are leveled high enough for T4 abilities, so I decided it would be okay to wait and focus on farming for FtD and other things. The other two modes I have been viewing more as secondary priorities and I will only invest resources when I am close to the next tier level. . Some of my alliance members think it would be worth putting more resources into mercenary characters for the gold. Gold is one of the most scarce resources in the game, so that may be something I choose to focus on soon. Section 12 - Blitz These next three game modes could pretty much be in any order. As of now, I mostly just use whatever characters I have to Blitz. The same teams that are good in Arena and Raids are good for Blitz. I just focus on hitting the milestones for every character since I would be unable to grind for a top 1500 spot with my roster anyway. The reason I choose to list Blitz first is because it is important to keep character power levels as close as possible. There are times I have powered up a character to make them fit with a new Blitz squad. There are some really good Blitz guides out there that I would recommend checking out that explain how to Blitz effectively. The rewards from this game mode are very important to roster progression. Section 13 - Alliance War I don’t think I have ever put a resource into a character specifically for alliance war. Although I am planning to get Invisible Women when her first event comes around, so that may change in the future. Similar to Blitz, a lot of the teams that are good for Arena and Raids work well in war. I typically put my Raid teams on defense since they have sustain and use everyone else for attack. A general rule of thumb is that teams that have short cooldowns and healing can be decent on defense. Teams with long cooldowns and quick burst are better on attack. Section 14 - Challenges Similar to war, I just use whatever characters are my highest power and see if I can complete the next tier. There is no downside to trying the next tier and losing, so I just try them when I think I might have the chance. The difference in most tier levels seems small enough to me to not make them a priority. Section 15 - Special Events These are typically Campaign Events for a new character and require certain traits to progress in the Campaign. They seem to be announced a week or two in advance so they are hard to plan for. New characters don’t normally become farmable for a few months (or indefinitely), so these events can be very helpful. It may be worth using some resources to get through the Campaigns if necessary. They also have helpful resources as a reward for beating each “Hard” Campaign node for the first time. An example of an event coming up is a Campaign for Graviton that requires Hero Controller characters. Section 16 - Game Resources Now I want to get into what to do with all the resources generated from the game modes. Each mode rewards you with different resources, so I will go through each one. Cores - We talk about this in the Arena game mode. My recommendation would be to use cores for energy refreshes, and sometimes node refreshes. A common recommendation you will see on the internet is to use all of your 50 core energy refreshes every day. Depending where I finish in Arena I will sometimes even do some 100 core energy refreshes. If I am farming a character and want to speed up the process I will also sometimes refresh the node for 50 cores. This can be useful to finish a farm for a legendary event or for a character to enter EtD. The last thing I would recommend (if you have to) is to refresh the main store looking for the orange superior unique gear that you need for FtD. Arena Credits - With Arena credits you have to choose specific toons to farm. There is no character orb. My recommendation would be to start with Daredevil and work him to wherever you want to stop the defenders. Next, would be to focus on a toon that can help you get your first legendary. For me, that was getting Drax to 5*. But this could also be Jugg. This is really going to vary for each player, but I would choose a character that is going to help you meet your next goal and just focus on them. I just finished up getting Vulture to 5* for the Invisible Women event. To give you an example of a prioritization choice I have to make - I am choosing my next farm between Mordo for Phoenix, Shield Security for FtD and Ironman event, or Deadpool for the Mercenary Flash Event. Raid Credits - To maintain a well balanced roster I highly recommend using Raid credits for Raid orbs (900 credits) instead of specific character shards (1400 credits). An important distinction to make is that Raid orbs provide 9 character shards, while specific characters are just 5 shards. Some other people argue to use Raid credits on purple gear, but so far I have focused primarily on character shards. Let’s get a little into the math on the orbs versus shards. Since this is a beginners guide we will talk about taking a character from 0 shards to 5*. 5* is a good number to focus on because that’s when legendaries can be unlocked. To get from 0 to 5* requires 310 character shards. So for example, to get rocket raccoon from 0 to 310 shards by only buying his character shards would cost 86800 Raid credits. For that same amount of Raid credits we can open 96 Raid orbs. And with 96 Raid orbs we would be getting 864 shards, or 554 MORE shards than buying specific character shards. You may be thinking, what if you just want a few characters? With 14 characters currently in the Raid store, every Raid orb should net us approximately 0.643 shards per character on average. So by opening 96 Raid orbs, we get a little over 60 shards per character instead of 310 for one. Ultimately, that is your decision. It is clearly faster to farm directly for one character. However, you are putting yourself behind on farming all the other characters. As of now Hand Sentry, Killmonger, Kree Oracle, Mercenary Soldier (not very good), Mysterio, Ravager Stitcher (not very good), Rocket Raccoon, Ronan, Sabretooth, Shield Trooper can all be used for the unlocking legendaries or in the flash events. Also, war machine is on one of the top war teams called Power Armor and is found in the orbs. Overall, you get much, much more value out of the Raid orbs if you don’t mind slower farms. There may be times that you want to farm specific characters, but I would highly recommend Raid orbs for having a well rounded team with access to many of the legendaries and flash events. Blitz Credits - My philosophy here is very similar for the Raid orbs, but I will run through the math so you have the context to make your own decision. Again let’s talk about taking a character from 0 shards to 5*. We can buy Blitz orbs (350 credits) or specific character shards (500 credits). Unlike Raid credits, instead of 4 additional character shards the Blitz orbs give gold. So to get a character to 5* from 0 shards would cost 31000 Blitz credits. For that same amount of Blitz credits we can open 88 Blitz orbs. With 88 Blitz orbs we would be getting 440 shards, or 120 more shards than buying specific character shards. It is also worth mentioning that you would get on average about 400k gold from the 88 Blitz orbs. It comes down to a similar decision as the Raid credits. You can get to a character faster by going straight there, but you are missing out on shards and gold by not buying orbs. Take a look at who is in this store. As of now, Gamora, Kree Royal Guard, Luke Cage, Mantis, Mercenary Riot Guard, Ravager Boomer, Rhino, Spiderman, and Spiderman Miles all can contribute to unlocking a legendary or in a flash event. Note - In a controversial move, Rescue was only added to the Blitz orb, so orbs need to be opened to farm her. She is also typically on the power armor team. War Credits - War credits are more similar to the Arena credits. There is no orbs with character shards at this time. I farmed Pyro to 5* and then focused the rest of my credits on orange superior unique items. I would just recommend choosing a goal and sticking with it here. Elite War Credits - Because the orange superior unique items are tough to find and the holdup for many players starting FtD, I would recommend saving up 1000 elite war credits for the Orange Gear War Orbs. Elite Red Star Credits - Another aspect of the game I haven’t talked about are Red Stars. They are a controversial topic, and I am just going to stick with the math between Elite 4 Star Orbs (5000 credits) versus Promotion Credits (1,000). I will compare this by looking at the upgrade between 3RS and 4RS. To upgrade a character to 4RS with promotion credits you need to already have the character at 3RS and then the cost is 50 promotion credits or 50,000 elite red star credits. With those 50,000 elite red star credits we could have gotten 10 Elite 4 star orbs, which guarantee a 4RS or higher. So, for the price of getting one 3RS character to 4RS, we could have gotten 10 characters (could be duplicates) up to 4RS. Additionally, they could have gotten up to 4RS from any star level below. This is a prioritization question. If there is a character that you use in every game mode every day then maybe it is worth it to you, but I just wanted to show some of the numbers so you can make the decision. Section 17 - Community Resources This game can be really fun because there is no right way to play the game. It also means that there are a lot of different opinions, and luckily, people are willing to share their thoughts. Here are some helpful ideas for different resources I have used: Reddit - Lots of different opinions and frequented by the devs Discord - There is an MSF discord that has a ton of different topics. Content Creators - Primarily on youtube, twitch, or discord. I’m happy to share some of my favorites if you are interested. Infographics - These seem to be really popular for this game as an easy to read and use tool. There are great ones for the uniques, FtD recommended teams, and essential T4 abilities for different teams as some examples. Msf.gg - Has a ton of different information about characters and gear. Your alliance - Self explanatory, but my alliance uses discord and pins a lot of helpful information in the channel Section 18 - Conclusions This game is all about prioritizing and planning ahead. My recommendation to new players is to focus on Arena. If you do well in Arena then you can use the cores you earn from that mode to help you out in all other aspects of the game. The easiest team to do well with in Arena is the Defenders (with punisher AKA Punfenders) and then switch gears to a Shield Team with Fury, Brotherhood team with Magneto, or Guardians/Minnerva Tech team with Starlord. I think Starlord is the easiest legendary to farm for because 3 of the required characters are in the Blitz store. Speaking of the Blitz store, if you want to have a well rounded roster then I highly recommend buying the Blitz and Raid orbs. They provide much more value than buying individual character shards. This will allow you to obtain more legendaries and progress further into flash events and special events. Ultimately, this game is fun because everyone plays it differently. This guide is aimed towards beginners hoping to get themselves off to a good start by having a well rounded roster. I am sure there are other approaches to playing this game efficiently, but I feel that I have set myself up well, and I have a lot of choices of what I can focus on next. EDIT: If you enjoyed the guide, have questions, or just want to talk about the game more come stop by a new discord server for beginners: https://discord.gg/bKAFnJn tldr Focus on Arena Get Defenders Put all resources into defenders and stop at 5*, 6* or 7* depending on preference Choose first legendary - Fury, Magneto or SL (SL seems easiest and best to me) Put all resources into legendary focused team - Shield, Brotherhood, or Guardians/Technerva Do Raids Farm superior uniques for gear level 13 Beat FtD and get Ultron
  4. DHO Ambassador
    Attention DHO! We have a new dad in our midst! Please welcome Steam Boss to our fraternity of dads! He joined on 01/22/2020! Steam Boss, on behalf of DHO and all the dads here, welcome to our little online man cave. If you want, give a quick hello and maybe tell us about yourself; What brings you here, how many kiddos, and what games do you like to play? I sent you a private message with some more details about Dad's Hideout, but if you have any questions at all, just let me ( @DHO Ambassador ) know and I will be happy to help. You can also reach out to the admins ( @thedakar or @xJediDadx ) or any of the moderators.
  5. Steam Boss Steam Boss joined the community
  6. Koudai
    Clan Battles start tonight 4:30 PST, play at least 1 battle so you can reset all you captains for free. https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/general-news/cvc-8-sea-of-fortune/
  7. rewguy79
    <😊 Hi Snaike, DHOriginal does have fokes on in the morning. I assume you're looking for fellow dads to platoon with, and just chat. We do Strongholds on Wednesday nights if you have the time. DHO does like you to set up a profile, and do Introduce Yourself Here #6 if you would, so we can get to know you. We use Discord for a lot of chat and communications so if you want to join us our Discord address is in the welcome of the DHO World of Tanks. Your Invite has been sent, thanks for joining.
  8. DHO Ambassador
    Attention DHO! We have a new dad in our midst! Please welcome Snaike to our fraternity of dads! He joined on 01/20/2020! Snaike, on behalf of DHO and all the dads here, welcome to our little online man cave. If you want, give a quick hello and maybe tell us about yourself; What brings you here, how many kiddos, and what games do you like to play? I sent you a private message with some more details about Dad's Hideout, but if you have any questions at all, just let me ( @DHO Ambassador ) know and I will be happy to help. You can also reach out to the admins ( @thedakar or @xJediDadx ) or any of the moderators.
  9. Snaike Snaike joined the community
  10. Snaike
    Hello Dads... I am interested in joining one of the DHO clans here in WOT. I suppose I qualify as a "dad" with 3 grown children and 1 grandson. As for WOT.. I've been around since 2012 as "Snaike" in the game on and off through the years and just came back to it after almost a year off. The game meta has changed and I would like to join a like-minded group to try and get back to where Ican make a difference in a battle. Happy to answer any questions.. looking forward to hearing back. Usually on WOT in the mornings as I've been a grave shift worker for the last 20 years and don't see that changing any time soon. Until then....
  11. DHO Ambassador
    Attention DHO! We have a new dad in our midst! Please welcome JenRoo to our fraternity of dads! He joined on 01/19/2020! JenRoo, on behalf of DHO and all the dads here, welcome to our little online man cave. If you want, give a quick hello and maybe tell us about yourself; What brings you here, how many kiddos, and what games do you like to play? I sent you a private message with some more details about Dad's Hideout, but if you have any questions at all, just let me ( @DHO Ambassador ) know and I will be happy to help. You can also reach out to the admins ( @thedakar or @xJediDadx ) or any of the moderators.
  12. Earlier
  13. ncpinz
    1st MOE for the Standard B and Charioteer 3rd Mark Tanks: Crusader 2nd Mark Tanks: M4 Sherman, T-150, Chaffee, Firefly, T37, Strv 74, Bert, T32, IS-3, Pz. T 25, T34 1st Mark Tanks: Centurion 7/1, DMax, Type 64, Bullydog, T-54, WZ-111-1-4, FV207, T49, AwfulPanther, Lorraine 40t, E25, AMX 50 120, WZ-132, Doom Turtle, WZ-120, LTTB, Type 61, RU 251, Bromwell, Obj 430 II, Ho, Skoda T40, Conqueror, FCM 50t, T14, 110, HellKitty, Type 4 Heavy, FV 'Goat', T67, AMX 30 Proto, Chi-Nu-Kai, FV201 (A45), Skorp G, Rudy, Strv m/42-57, Matty IV, Emil I, 53/55, Heavy Tank VI, E4, UDES 03, Conway Twitty, VK4502B, M4A1 Ravioli, OI Exp., A-43, AMX 65 t, Prosciutto, Church III, Pantera, T-10, 50TP, Hotchkiss EBR, Sherman III, WZ-132A, King Tiger (C), GSOR, Standard B, Charioteer
  14. bergsteiger started following Black desert online anyone?
  15. bergsteiger
    Anyone else try this game out?
  16. DEWEY_96_
    I hope I get some more replies. Thanks for the input so far guys!
  17. Granitebeard
    Not submitting to the poll as I have stopped playing. I follow this stuff to see if it is worth going back. I never thought they were OP nor thought they were UP. A lot, depended on who was behind the screen. Unfortunately, I feel that in this kind of game, they really don't have a place. As much as I enjoyed them, there will always be people who feel they are not right and make them the issue.
  18. gpc_4
    Haven’t played a CV since the big changes. Not saying I never will, but have no interest currently. I do love DDs with good AA; Friesland and Kidd are my boys.
  19. DEWEY_96_
    Hey guys- I have become a little more active in the forums lately... the CV troll or CV roll threads are ridiculous... but they also lack any kind of stats to back either one up. I've seen crazy posts and some well thought out responses. Take a second and answer the poll... ALSO... if you have a suggestion, put it in. I know @Hapa_Fodder is asking for help too on suggestions for the entire game, so don't forget to check in with him on everything, not just CV's.
  20. Gigachip
    Surprised you didn't like the Tiger II, I liked the Tiger I, would assume the II was just as good or better than the I. Was going to go down the path for the E100 myself. Stopped at the Tiger I after I unlocked the Tiger II but tempted to go finish it.
  21. Death33Dealer
    I did, I liked how it was grouped under the one channel and it made it easier to find. Thanks! I'm a relatively new user to discord from using teamspeak and ventrillo for many years. So i'm still finding my way through the whole discord ui and such. It can be a bit overwhelming in the beginning lol.
  22. gpc_4
    Two new aces, PzVII and Eagle. PzVII battle might be the most pathetic tier X ace tanker battle I've ever seen. http://wotreplays.eu/site/5183682#himmelsdorf-gpc_4-pz_kpfw_vii
  23. Voltagesauce
    Marvel Strike Force Beginner’s Guide - Buffs/Debuffs Last Updated: January 2020 Section 1 - Introduction Hey everyone. I am Voltagesauce and I am back with another guide for beginner players. My last two guides (see bottom of page for links) have been about the game at a high level especially focused on resources and farming. In this guide, I will discuss some game mechanics and primarily focus on buffs and debuffs during battles. Some of these status effects are easy to understand, but many have complexity to them. When I first started playing I didn’t pay too much attention to them because I didn’t understand how crucial they were. This guide will cover how all the effects work and tips/tricks to exploit them. I appreciate you taking the time to read! EDIT: I also decided to create a discord server for beginners (or anyone) that wants to ask questions or talk about the game. I'd love for you to stop by: https://discord.gg/bKAFnJn Section 2 - Disclaimers This guide will not be an exhaustive list of all of the tips/tricks that are possible with all of the status effects. I’d love to hear your thoughts on other ways to strategize around these buff and debuffs. There are certain character abilities that do not follow the typical game mechanic rules. These skills typically mention this in their ability description. For example, Spiderman’s special ability (Web Slinger) says that it cannot be countered. It’s important to learn about these “exceptions” as you continue playing the game. I try to use lots of examples in this guide and I primarily focused on characters that newer players may have so you can get familiar with the characters and their kits. The most important disclaimer and the biggest takeaway from the guide is to read and try to understand all of the abilities. This sounds silly to many of you, but it’s really easy to skim over details in the game, especially as a beginner. Most abilities do multiple things and it’s easy to miss some of the small nuisances when you first start playing. Section 3 - Turn Meter Before I cover the buffs and debuffs, I think it is essential to understand that turn meter is the most important in-game mechanic. MSF is a turn based game, so if you can take advantage of your turns better than your opponent or take more turns than your opponent than you have a good chance to win. The turn meter is the blue bar that can be seen above your characters and the closer the bar is to being full, the closer to their turn the character is. Looking at my defenders team below, you can estimate that the order my characters will go is Daredevil, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, Punisher, Luke Cage. I say estimate because each character generates turn meter at a different value based on their Speed. Each character has a defined Speed characteristic that you can see in the individual character screens. For example, Daredevil’s speed is 119(see below). Characters’ speed bar fills up based on this value and whichever character fills up to 1000 units first goes next. This Speed value can be altered by certain buffs, debuffs, and abilities. NOTE: When characters are the same speed and reach the 1000 unit threshold at the same time it is a coin flip for which character will get to move first. Most buffs and debuffs end at the start or end of your characters turn, so this will be very important to follow during your matches because it influences the amount of time that characters will have buffs and debuffs applied to them.. I will go over how/when each status effect ends in the later sections of this guide, but it is important to understand that turn meter plays a huge factor in the effectiveness of buffs and debuffs. Section 4 - Buffs This section will cover all of the available buffs currently in the game. When these status effects are currently applied to your character they show up as green icons above their health bars. Buffs are also called positive status effects because they are designed to provide benefits to the character. However, one small caveat to understand as you learn the game is that buffs are not always a good thing. There are always exceptions and I will mention some specific examples later. Also, some abilities apply multiple instances of buffs. For example, a buff may last two turns instead of one. Counterattack This ability ends after the character counterattacks once. Each character has their own Assist/Counter Info. Counterattack damage scales based on the character’s Basic ability level. Some characters can also apply special effects (like bleed). MSF.gg is a great resource for seeing individual character’s information. For example, Daredevil’s page: Counterattack ends most chain attacks, so you have to be careful about which enemies you use chain attacks on. Also, it may be a good idea to position a character that gains counter next to your tank to end enemy chains. Counter is important when it comes to AOE abilities. An AOE played into counters can kill the attacking character easily. For example, Punisher and Rocket ultimates can get them killed very easily. You can take advantage of the A.I. by applying counters before they use their ultimates. Deathproof This ability ends after the character should have been killed This effect is very powerful because it forces an additional move to be used to kill a character that could have already been dead. Or this leaves time for the character to use a powerful move or be healed. One exception to deathproof is percentage based damage like Minnerva's Ultimate ability. A character with Deathproof will still die from this type of attack. Abilities that deal damage and clear buffs will deal damage and then clear the buff. So this will not kill characters like you may expect. Characters that deal multiple attacks can be useful against characters with Deathproof because they can proc the Deathproof buff and then kill them. For example, Crossbones Basic ability has a chance of a Bonus attack. Defense Up This ability ends after the character’s turn. Being able to reduce damage by 50% is one of the strongest buffs in the game. Luke Cage and Vision are both effective characters because they can give multiple allies (and themselves) defense up for two turns. Taking only half the damage for two turns is insane especially when many matches only take a few turns to be completed. It is best to apply Defense Up to characters with less of their turn meter filled because then they will have the buff applied for longer. It is ineffective to you use it on a character that is about to take their turn because it will just end after their turn. This is one of the most important buffs to look for on enemies when you are choosing a target to attack. This ability also increases resistance, which is the character’s ability to resist effects (like bleeds or defense down). Getting stuck behind a character with Defense Up and Taunt can be game losing. Depending on the matchup it can be a good idea to kill, slow, or stun an enemy before they can use Defense Up abilities. Deflect This ability ends after the character blocks an attack. Each character has a Block Amount that lowers the amount of damage of the attack by a fixed percentage. These can be seen in the individual character stat screens. Most characters have 25% Block Amount, but some characters have higher. For example, see Captain America has 30%: This status effect is commonly seen in Alliance War when rooms are boosted and makes the defensive team take reduced damage for three instances. It is important to understand the distinctions between Deflect and Defense Up. They both reduce the incoming damage, but Deflect will only last one instance. Defense Up will last until that character ends their next turn and can block damage from many attacks. On the other hand, a benefit of Deflect is that it remains applied until the character is attacked. Defense Up can be “wasted” if that character is not attacked before their next turn. Evade This ability ends after the character dodges an attack. The character is guaranteed to dodge the next attack unless the attacker’s ability says otherwise (unavoidable) Evade can be removed off multiple characters by using AOE abilities. For example, Rocket’s Basic ability will remove the buff off the primary and secondary targets. On the other hand, using Rocket’s Ultimate ability may not be the best approach to removing multiple Evade buffs because that is a huge damage ability with a 4 turn cooldown. Overall, you just want to be careful which moves you are using on targets with Evade because you may waste an important ability. Immunity This ability ends after the character’s turn. Immunity is pretty straight forward. You don’t want to use abilities that are primarily designed to put debuffs on a character with immunity like bleeds or heal block. One caveat with Immunity is that abilities that flip effects still work (positive into negative). I will talk about flipping effects at the end of this guide. Offense Up This ability ends after the character’s turn. This buff becomes insane on AOE abilities like Punisher, Rocket, Crossbones Ultimate abilities. Applying 50% extra damage is pretty good, but dealing 50% extra damage to all enemies is incredible. Because this buff typically only lasts one turn it is important to time abilities that grant Offense Up before their ally will use their AOE abilities. For example, Kingpin might only want to use his Ultimate ability when Crossbones is ready to use his Ultimate ability. On the other hand, if you are able to swap the order of enemies move order then you can potentially delay or prevent their massive AOE attacks. This ability also increases Focus, which increases the attackers capability to apply effects to the target. Regeneration This ability ends at the start of the character’s turn. It is important to understand that the healing is based on the character that provides the Regeneration buff. For example, Luke Cage provides the Regeneration buffs to Defenders. Regeneration is a percentage so it scales based on the source character’s health. So increases their yellow and red stars can have a major impact on the usefulness of the buffs. This buff can “stack” meaning one character can have multiple Regeneration buffs that will be applied at the beginning of their turn. They could each heal different amounts if they were applied by different source characters. I will talk about Bleed below in the Debuff section, but it is the only other effect that ends at the start of characters’ turns. The damage from Bleeds occur before the healing from Regenerations. A character could die before the heals are applied. It could be a good idea to finish off a lower health enemy if they have many a few stacks of Regeneration on them. Speed Up This ability ends after the character’s turn. As I mentioned at the beginning of this guide, taking more turns than the opponent is a major advantage, so this can be an extremely strong buff when used properly. The less a character's turn meter is full, the more value that a character will get from a Speed Up buff. I mentioned earlier that Daredevil’s speed was 119. So if his turn meter is almost full he may only gain 59.5 extra units of Speed from the buff. However, if Daredevil’s turn meter is almost empty then he may gain approximately 300 extra units of Speed (50% of 119 5 times) before his next turn. This could lead him to take an extra turn before the opponent’s characters. One reminder is that characters generate ability energy whenever they take their turn, so the more turns they take the faster and more often that they will get to use their abilities. Fun Fact: This ability used to get so abused that the Devs publicly talked about nerfing it to 30%, and they decided against it when the player base criticized the decision. Stealth This ability ends after the character’s turn. Stealth targets can still be damaged by AOE abilities. Chained attacks will not chain to Stealthed targets though and it will break the chain attack. This makes characters that Stealth a good choice to be positioned next to Tanks and break chains. Also, you have to be aware when choosing your attack target because you may not get full value out of your attack if you choose a target with a stealthed enemy next to them. I mentioned in the beginner that buffs are not always positive. One small aspect of this effect is that if all of the characters on a team are Stealth then the opponent can choose their attack target. The characters are not protected like you would hope when in Stealth. Taunt This ability ends at the start of the character’s turn. Taunt has to be used carefully because they will be the primary attack target of the opponent. If you taunt with someone who is low health they can die very easily. On most teams it is a good idea to position characters that can taunt on either end. This way AOE abilities do not damage as many of your characters. A downside to this is that chains can hit all of the characters. To counteract this, it can be worthwhile to place characters that gain Counter, have high dodge chances, or can Stealth next to the Tank. For example, Daredevil gains counter and has high dodge chances so you will typically see him next to Luke Cage. Taunt is another positive effect that can sometimes be a negative effect. There are certain character abilities that allow the opponent to give taunt to their target. This can force a critical target to gain the Taunt buff and be focused down by the opponent. Section 5 - Debuffs This section will cover all of the available debuffs currently in the game. When these status effects are currently applied to your character they show up as red icons above their health bars. Debuffs are also called negative status effects because they are designed to provide inhibit the character. Similar to Buffs, some Debuff abilities apply multiple instances of debuffs. For example, a debuff may last two turns instead of one. Ability Block This ability ends after the character’s turn. This is one of the tougher abilities to use properly because you have to understand the characters and matchup to decide who and when to this debuff on. It doesn’t provide any benefit if you use it on someone who is going to use their basic next turn. It takes practice to figure out who the best target in each matchup, but I generally prioritize characters that provide defense up like Luke Cage. Bleed This ability ends at the start of the character’s turn. Bleed has some of the more complex mechanics of any of the buffs or debuffs in the game, so I am primarily going to cover the basics. Similar to Regeneration, Bleed is based on the stats of the character that applied the Bleed debuff. The damage scales based on the damage stat of the source character. So increasing the amount of yellow or red stars on characters that apply bleed is extremely effective. As I mentioned in the Regeneration section, it is important to remember that Bleed will proc before Regeneration at the start of a character's turn. This debuff can “stack” meaning one charcater can have multiple bleed debuffs and will take multiple instances of damage at the start of their turn. Each instance could be for different amounts if they were applied by different source characters. When bleeds are spread they do not spread the original source. The percentage of damage on the new bleeds is from the character who spread the debuffs. For example, Venom would be the source of the new bleeds when he uses his Ultimate ability to spread Bleeds. Blind This ability ends after the character’s turn. Similar to ability block, this debuff requires knowledge of the enemies' abilities to maximize its usefulness. You can really take advantage of the A.I. by blinding a character that will use an AOE or large damage ability move on their turn. Even though they are blinded, they will use it anyways and miss their target(s). On the other hand, if you use blind on a character that is going to taunt or use another defensive move then it provides no value. Some characters are not affected or affected less by blind because their base accuracy is higher than 100%. For example, Daredevil has 200% accuracy, so blinding him does not affect his chances to deal damage. In a lot of ways, Blind is better than Stun against the A.I. because the character will use their ability instead of saving it for the next turn. Defense Down This ability ends after the character’s turn. I think there may be some nuisances with the way they are coded that make them different, but overall this debuff shares a lot of similarities to Offense Up. This debuff significantly increases the burst potential on any targets affected. If practical based on the matchup, I think focusing any characters with Defense Down is a good strategy. It is best to apply Defense Down to characters with less of their turn meter filled because then they will have the debuff applied for longer. It is ineffective to you use it on a character that is about to take their turn because it will just end after their turn. If possible, it is good to synergize abilities that provide AOE Defense Down with AOE damage dealing abilities for massive increases in damage. Loki isn’t an early game character for most players, but his Special ability is a good example of a powerful Defense Down ability. Using him is becoming a popular strategy to burst down an important character at the beginning of a match like Luke Cage or Ultron. Disrupted This ability ends after the character’s turn. This debuff is another effect that can be abused against the A.I. because you can make character’s waste an important move. Disrupting a character that will Taunt on their next turn comes to mind. The A.I. will use the ability anyways and it will not apply Taunt to the character. One entertaining interaction is a Disrupted Crossbones using his Ultimate ability and killing himself because the Deathproof could not be applied to Crossbones. Heal Block This ability ends after the character’s turn. This effect can be a huge nuisance on teams that rely on being able to heal their characters and outlasting opponents. For example, this can be very annoying for a Defenders team that relies on healing from Iron Fist. This also is a huge problem for teams that have a healer that “heal the most injured ally” because they can try to heal an ally with Heal Block and it will fail and waste the ability. Minnerva is an example of a character that will keep healing the lowest health ally, even if they have Heal Block applied and the healing is wasted. This debuff is particularly difficult to deal with in raids and dark dimension because these teams typically heal a lot to continue progressing through the nodes. Offense Down This ability ends after the character’s turn. This effect compares similarly to the target having Defense Up. It can be one of the strongest effects if applied to the correct character at the right time. Applying this to a character that is about to use their big AOE ability can make it just tickle your entire team. On the other hand, it may be worth delaying using your own AOE ability a turn if your character is affected by Offense Down. Targeting characters that also applying debuffs is a good idea because they will be less likely to apply debuffs to your characters. Pyro is a good example of a character that does AOE damage and applies Bleed. With Offense Down he will do a lot less damage and be less likely to inflict Bleed. Slow This ability ends after the character’s turn. This effect has most of the same mechanics as Speed Up. Affecting the turn order is one of the most powerful effects in the game. Similar to Speed Up, Slow is most effective when applied to a character that has less of their turn meter filled (slowed for longer). Slowing a tank down is a common strategy because it will inhibit them from protecting their team in a timely manner. For example, slowing Luke Cage at the beginning of a match will keep him from giving his allies Defense Up. Slow can also be used to mess up the turn order of a team. Some characters rely on an ally to “setup” their attack and slowing the “setup” character down can ruin the combo. Stun This ability ends after the character’s turn. Stun is pretty self explanatory. Any time you can force a character to lose a turn is pretty powerful. Similar to what I mentioned in the Buffs section, there are times where applying a Debuff to an opponent can actually be a bad thing. For example, if you stun a character with Taunt. They will Taunt for an extra turn, which could keep you from attacking their damage dealers or healers. Section 6 - Flipping Status Effects One other game mechanic that is involved with buffs and debuffs is abilities that “Flip effects”. For example, Doctor Strange can “flip all positive effects on each enemy”. So any buff that an enemy has will become a debuff. There are also moves that flip negative effects on allies. And this flip is not just random. Each buff has an “opposite” debuff and vice versa. This can be a massive swing from just one ability. Here is a table for the opposite effects: Buff/Debuff Flips to Ability Block Evade Bleed Regeneration Blind Stealth Counter Bleed Deathproof Bleed Defense Down Defense Up Defense Up Defense Down Disrupted Immunity Evade Bleed Heal Block Deathproof Immunity Disrupted Offense Down Offense Up Offense Up Offense Down Regeneration Bleed Slow Speed Up Speed Up Slow Stealth Bleed Stun Counter Taunt Bleed Section 7 - Conclusions Thanks for reading this far. I feel like I learned a bunch by writing this guide and I hope it helps you too. There are a lot of really neat mechanics in this game and there is a lot to think about. I hope this covered some of the basics and gave you an appreciation for the complexity of the combat. The more I explore the game mechanics the less I autoplay and the more I enjoy each fight. Overall, to really understand when to use abilities and who to target with them you really have to understand the win condition of your team versus how the opponent wins. In most matchups you can disrupt the opponent’s win condition by killing the correct target or applying debuffs on particular characters. There is a lot more that could be added about each of these status effects, so feel free to let me know your tips, tricks, and exceptions. EDIT: If you enjoyed this guide, have questions, or just want to chat about the game, stop by a new discord server for beginners: https://discord.gg/bKAFnJn Section 8 - Previous Guides Beginner’s Guide - Beginner’s Guide for Farming Legendary Characters -
  24. Voltagesauce
    MSF Beginner Legendary Farming Guide Last Updated: January 2020 Section 1 - Introduction Hi everyone, I'm Voltagesauce. You might have seen my beginners guide I posted last week. If not, and you're a beginner looking for a guide, here is the link: http://dadshideout.com/IPS/index.php?/blogs/entry/28-marvel-strike-force-beginners-guide/ One of the topics that came up in Reddit comments was wanting more details on how to go get legendaries. The legendaries can be confusing for new players since it is not clearly explained how they work in the game. This guide will cover some of the basics of legendaries and how to farm for them. EDIT: I also decided to create a discord server for beginners (or anyone) that wants to ask questions or talk about the game. I'd love for you to stop by: https://discord.gg/bKAFnJn Section 2 - Disclaimers I only have two legendaries - Starlord and Invisible Women. This guide is just supposed to be the basics. For how to use the legendaries, I want to give a shout out to u/FullMetalCos because he has some really solid guides on Reddit for using each legendary. UPDATE: I now have all the legendaries except Phoenix and Black Bolt and expect to get Phoenix the next event. This guide is mostly focused on farming for legendary requirements and not power level. Even if you have the required characters at the right level, you still have to win the fight to unlock the legendary. There are really good graphics with minimum power levels you need for each legendary. For example, Khasino has good ones. There is a datamine that Ironman will be introduced as a permanent event in the Events section, and will be able to be unlocked at 3* instead of 5. Datamines are subject to change, so we will assume 5* unlock for the purpose of this guide. Section 3 - Intro to Legendaries Legendaries are characters that are only available during their specific event and require 5 characters with certain tags at 5* (with the exception of Phoenix who requires 5 characters at 6*). I will go over each of the legendaries requirements and where to farm them. It is unknown when these events will be available, so it is best to plan ahead. Each event is normally announced a week or two before it begins, which is generally not enough time to farm the characters you need. In general, the events for each character are 2-4 months apart. My recommendation is to farm on your schedule for the legendary you want and not try to farm based on the estimated game schedule. You may be pleasantly surprised when the character you want and have farmed for comes earlier than expected. There are times it might make sense to finish a farm to meet the games schedule as well, but in general I think it's a good idea to farm for the legendary you want next. With a few exceptions (like defenders), teams really need a legendary character to enable them to go from mediocre non-meta teams to the top meta teams in the game. In general, legendaries have powerful abilities and stats, but a main reason they make the teams so powerful is because they have what are called "leadership abilities". These abilities are typically in their passive and significantly boost their allies. I will cover these in each of the legendaries individual sections. Section 4 - Legendary Farming Basics The requirements for each legendary are different, so the difficulty to farm for each character varies a lot. This section covers the different ways characters can be farmed and the difficulty associated with that farming method. Blitz - Mostly people consider characters in the blitz store to be the easiest to get. There are the most blitz credits available compared to other modes, all the toons are available in the store at any given time, and they are the cheapest. All the characters available in the blitz store that are requirements for legendaries are good targets. Campaign - Other characters are only available in campaign nodes. So the main resource to farm these characters is energy, but it's a slow farm because you are limited 5 attempts each day (or use cores for more attempts). Some characters have multiple nodes, which can speed up the farming. The numbers i have seen thrown around the internet as generally accepted farming numbers are 2.5 shards per 5 attempts (2.5 per node per day). Arena - It depends on how you are doing in arena whether farming arena or nodes is a faster farm. In my experience arena is a faster farm. If you just complete your daily objectives then you can get 5 shards every day. Any more than that and you are farming faster than a node. However, you can only farm one character at a time and you can farm a bunch of nodes at a time. Raid - Characters in the raid store can be fairly hard to farm. They are more expensive than blitz and arena and only 3 characters show in the store at one time. This can be a major hold up for certain legendary requirements. I prefer to avoid relying on these characters if possible. Alliance War - I believe most people agree that the war store is the hardest to farm. This may change with the most recent update when all since war league's start. It sounds like more resources will be available. Only 3 characters are available at anytime and they are more expensive than blitz or arena shards. Section 5 - Ironman Requirements - Shield Characters Shield Security (Arena Store or Heroes 3-6) Captain America (Heroes 6-9 or Nexus 5-9) Shield Trooper (Raid Store or Villains 4-3) Shield Operative (War Store or Heroes Assemble) Shield Medic (Heroes 2-3 or Villains 1-6) Shield Assault (Nexus 2-3) Hawkeye (Heroes 6-6 or Villains 1-9) Quake (Arena Store) Black Widow (Unfarmable) Nick Fury (Legendary Event) Agent Coulson (Milestone Orbs Only) Primary Modes: Alliance War Offense, Blitz Primary team: Power Armor Leadership Ability: None except for a little added synergy with War Machine Farming Advice: There are more good options than bad options for this event. I would recommend avoiding Shield Assault because of only one node, and Shield Operative because you probably do not want to be spending your war credits on her. However, at this point in the game, the shield minions see the most play, so it could make sense to prioritize some of them if possible. Ironman has a lot of characters that fulfill the requirements to unlock him. Who you choose to farm may come down to who you pull from your random orbs. Ironman is considered one of the weakest legendaries and doesn't provide much value outside of alliance war at this time. However, when you unlock Nick Fury you will want to use him with shield minions so you may be able to unlock IM while powering then up. As mentioned in the disclaimer, this event may become a permanent event and Ironman will be able to be unlocked with five 3* shield characters instead of five 5* shield characters. This would make him the easiest legendary to farm. UPDATE: Ironman's event has become a permanent event and the requirements were made easier as expected. I left him in the guide, but he is not really considered a legendary anymore. Section 6 - Starlord Requirements - Five 5* Guardians or Ravager Characters Groot (Nexus 2-9) Rocket Racoon (Raid Store) Drax (Arena Store) Gamora (Blitz Store) Mantis (Blitz Store) Ravager Boomer (Blitz Store) Yondu (Heroes 1-9) Ravager Stitcher (Raid Store) Ravager Bruiser (Heroes 4-6) Primary Modes: Arena, Raids, Fear the Darkness (DD2), Alliance War, Blitz Primary team: Guardians or Technerva Leadership Ability: Guardian Allies gain +30% damage and +20% speed. Also, generate 1-2 ability energy to guardian allies Farming Advice: Similar to Ironman there are a lot of potential options for Starlord, but most are not farmable in multiple locations. However, a great place to farm for starlord is through the Blitz Orb. Mantis, Gamora and Ravager Boomer are all available in the Blitz store. Groot is a fairly difficult farm with only one node, but he is one of the top characters in the game. Drax is a good option in the arena store. Rocket is a pretty RNG reliant character to farm because he is in the Raid store, but if possible he is one of the best blasters in the game. The nice thing about farming for Starlord is you can “passively” farm many of these characters while farming the Defenders nodes. Starlord is one of the most useful characters in the game and enables some of the Guardians (mostly Groot and Rocket) to become some of the best characters in the game. With three of the required characters in the Blitz store it is fairly easy to get them all to 5* over a short amount of time. It is also pretty easy to farm for other purposes while farming for Starlord because only Groot or Yondu are farmed from campaign nodes. For example, farming for the Defenders and Starlord do not overlap. One of the best parts about the requirements for Starlord is that you use many of the same team members with Starlord as you use to unlock him. He is the only legendary with that benefit. Section 7 - Nick Fury Requirements - Five 5* Kree Minions Kree Noble (Cosmic 1-6) UPDATE: Noble's 2nd node was removed recently Kree Cyborg (Nexus 3-6 and Cosmic 2-3) Kree Reaper (Heroes 5-6 and Cosmic 2-6) Kree Royal Guard (Blitz Store) Kree Oracle (Raid Store) Primary Modes: Arena, Raids, Fear the Darkness (DD2), Alliance War, Blitz Primary team: Fury Shield Leadership Ability: On Spawn, grant Speed Up to all shield minions. On Turn, 50% to grant Speed Up to Shield minions. Grant offense up to shield minions on assists. Shield minions gain +10% armor and +30% resistance. Farming Advice: There are only five available characters for unlocking Fury. It is important to remember that it is only the kree minions and not any kree that can be used for the unlock. Kree Noble is a little harder than the others because you have to make progress into the Mystic Campaign. Kree Oracle is the other tough farm because of the RNG of the raid store. Similar to Starlord, Fury is a very versatile character and makes the Fury Shield team one of the best in all modes of the game. A lot of people recommend farming for Nick Fury after the Defenders because they will help you progress in the Villains and Cosmic Campaigns. One downside of farming for Fury is that you also have to farm the shield minions for Fury to be super useful after you unlock him. So you essentially have to farm two teams instead of one (shield and kree), which can be difficult because they both require farming lots of campaign nodes. Section 8 - Magneto Requirements - Five 5* Brotherhood or X-Men Characters Pyro (War Store) Sabretooth (Raid Store) Juggernaut (Arena Store) Mystique (Villains 5-6) Storm (Mystic 2-3) Wolverine (Daily Objectives) Colossus (Unfarmable) Psylocke (Cosmic 3-6) UPDATE: Psylocke got added to a node recently Phoenix (Legendary Event) Primary Modes: Arena, Fear the Darkness (with Jugg), Alliance War Attack, Blitz Primary team: Brotherhood Leadership Ability: On enemy Crit, apply Speed Up to all Brotherhood allies. Brotherhood allies gain +50% Focus and +30% Max Health. Also, when Juggernaut is an ally, Juggernaut gets +20% speed bar whenever he is attacked. Farming Advice: There are currently only six options for farming Magneto. Wolverine is considered a “gimme” because he is the daily login calendar and most people’s most farmed character. Juggernaut is the only other easy farm because he is in the arena store. Storm is a hard farm because her node is almost half through the Mystic Campaign. Currently, Magneto is a hard unlock because there are only 6 options and 4 of them are hard farms. Pyro is essential to the Brotherhood team, so it might be worth using War Credits on him. Magneto can pair with Juggernaut and be used in many teams, and together make up one of the best attacking teams in the game for Arena or War. The Brotherhood team does not have much healing/sustain, so it is not recommended to farm for Magneto if you are looking for a better raid team. Section 9 - Shuri Requirements - Five 5* Spiderverse Characters Spiderman (Blitz Store) Spiderman (Miles) (Blitz Store) Venom (Nexus 6-9) Carnage (War Store) Rhino (Blitz Store) Mysterio (Raid Store) Green Goblin (Nexus 5-6) Shocker (Cosmic 1-9) Vulture (Arena Store) Primary Modes: Raids, Alliance War, Blitz Primary team: Wakandan, Tech Hybrid Leadership Ability: On Spawn, apply Speed Up to all Wakandan Allies. In Raids, all Wakandan allies gain +40% Max Health and +20% Armor. In Raids, when any Wakandan ally drops below 50% health, gain 3 Deflect. Farming Advice: With the addition of the Sinister Six characters to the game, there are many options that are fairly easy to farm. Carnage is the only character that I would recommend to avoid farming for this event. Additionally, the Sinister Six make a really good option for efficiency because Invisible Women requires five 5* Sinister Six characters. So you can unlock two legendaries with the same five characters. Shuri has a really powerful kit that works well on lots of different teams, but she has not made her way into many top meta teams yet. For most people, Shuri is not a priority legendary to farm compared to Starlord, Nick Fury, Magneto and Phoenix. Farming for her got a lot easier with the addition of the Sinister Six characters, so as more people unlock her I would expect more theorycrafting to occur. UPDATE: Shuri has become a highly recommended character for U7 raids because of her defense up and heal. Section 10 - Phoenix Requirements - Five 6* Villain Mystic Controller Characters Nobu (Villains 6-3) Ronan (Raid Store) Mordo (Arena Store) Loki (Mystic 3-6) Hand Assassin (Nexus 7-6) Hela (Unfarmable) UPDATE: Hela was added to the game and fits the tag, but is not yet farmable. Primary Modes: Arena, Alliance War Attack, Blitz, Raids (highly debated) Primary team: X-Men Leadership Ability: X-Men allies gain +30% Damage and +30% Max Health. Also, when Colossus is an ally - On Spawn, Colossus gains Defense Up for 2 turns and all X-Men allies gain Defense Up. Farming Advice: This is by far the hardest legendary event to farm for. Mordo is the only easy farm, but still takes commitment to get to 6*. Loki is toward the end of the Mystic Campaign and one of the hardest campaign nodes to 3*. Additionally, Nobu and Hand Assassin and not used in many other game modes at this time. Phoenix is being called one of the best characters in the game not named Ultron, but she is very hard for new players to farm towards. She is pretty much a requirement to be competitive in older arena shards and is part of the best attacking team in Alliance War. As a beginner, this is a legendary to keep in the back of your mind, but not likely one that you could unlock early on. UPDATE: Phoenix is popular as a option for hard U7 nodes. Section 11 - Invisible Women Requirements - Five 5* Sinister Six Characters Rhino (Blitz Store) Mysterio (Raid Store) Green Goblin (Nexus 5-6) Shocker (Cosmic 1-9) Vulture (Arena Store) Primary Modes: Unsure because she is brand new to the game, but most likely Alliance War Attack and Blitz. UPDATE: She also sees play in Arena and Raids Primary team: Fantastic Four Leadership Ability: When an enemy attacks a Fantastic Four ally with Barrier, attack that enemy for +250% Damage. Fantastic Four and Namor allies gain +20% Max Health. Farming Advice: As I mentioned in the Shuri section, these five characters can be used to unlock two legendary characters. Mysterio, Green Goblin, and Shocker are not the easiest farms, but it is efficient to farm them for the double legendary unlock. We don’t know much about Invisible Women yet since she just got released to the game this week. She is being advertised as being a part of one of the top Alliance War attack teams. It is tough to say how to prioritize unlocking her until she gets more play. The Fantastic Four are also being advertised as a versatile team, so they may be able to see play in other games modes by replacing Namor with other characters. I plan to add more information here later. UPDATE: IW has seen a lot of play since being released. She has made it into a lot of high level arena teams and she is highly recommended for U7 raids. Her ability to cleanse and apply offense down to all the enemies is extremely powerful. Section 12 - Black Bolt UPDATE: Black Bolt is the newest legendary added to the game, but he is only obtainable by buying offers currently. Requirements - Five 5* Asgardian Characters Loki (Mystic 3-6) Thor (Raid Store) Sif (Unfarmable) Hela (Unfarmable) Heimdall (Unfarmable) Primary Modes: Unsure because he is brand new to the game, but it sounds like he will be an amazing overall character. FoxNext is saying he will be used in Arena. They also said they will be a strong attacking team in war. Players have also been having success with him in U7 raids. Primary team: Inhumans Leadership Ability: Inhuman allies gain +40% Resistance and +50% Max Health. Farming Advice: Black Bolt is not currently attainable by farming. He is only possible through purchasing offers. Black Bolt is still new, but he appears to be one of the strongest characters in the game. He is a direct counter to some of the other top characters in the game (Ultron and Minnerva). The Inhumans are expected to be one of the top arena teams, but this has not been confirmed. Crystal and Karnak have not be released at the time of writing this update. Section 13 - Farming Math Similar to my first beginner’s guide post, I want to throw out some math so you have some context when you make decisions about farming for legendaries. Some people want to collect all of the legendaries and some might just want to focus on specific characters they’re interested in. This section will cover each resource and the different options for how to use it. Blitz Credits - For farming characters, the options are the Blitz orb for 350 credits or individual character shards for 500 credits (minions are 400). You would be able to generate more Blitz credits than this, but I am going to estimate that players can generate about 8,180 credits a week or about 1,170 credits a day from completing all of the milestones. With those assumptions, you could farm an individual blitz character 2.34 times a day or 11.7 shards a day. If you were focused on farming for a certain legendary you could get an individual character from the Blitz Store from 0 shards to 5* in about 27 days. To get all 15 characters to 5* would take approximately 405 days. If you were to use those same credits for buying blitz orbs you would expect to buy 3.34 orbs per day or average about 1.1 shards of each character per day (assuming 15 characters). So to get all Blitz Store characters from 0 shards to 5* would take about 278 days. This is about 45% faster than through individual character shard purchases. Overall, I think there are a few takeaways from this math. Buying orbs is by far the best value over the long term and this is the approach I have taken because we don’t know which characters will be useful later (different events or buffs). On the other hand, it is significantly faster to farm for individual characters if you are really looking to get one legendary at a certain star level. One simple way to look at it would be to decide how many characters in the blitz store are useful to you. If it is 10 or more then buy orbs. If it is 9 or less, buying the individual character shards would be faster. Two final comments I want to make about farming Blitz: First, I want to reiterate that these numbers are very conservative. You will be earning more Blitz Orbs and Blitz Credits by playing Blitz and earning the character shards from other orbs. I have been playing for around 135 days and have all the Blitz characters except Rescue (just added) at 5 stars. A few are at or close to 6*. Which brings me to my next point - these numbers are all just averages. RNG will make it so all your characters are not equal. Campaign - There is not too much to say about farming character shards from Campaign nodes. A general rule of thumb I have seen is 2.5 shards per day, per node (5 attempts). Additionally, it seems generally accepted that it is the same drop rate no matter what the energy cost is. So the higher the energy cost, the harder the node is to farm. Something to keep in mind, is that some characters have 2 nodes to farm, so this could be seen as approximately 5 shards per day (10 attempts). One benefit of farming campaign nodes is that you can farm many characters at any given period. Also, you can use cores to refresh the nodes if you really want to farm certain characters. The other resources are not like this. If you don’t have Blitz/Arena/Raid Credits then you farm the characters. Arena Credits - As of now, the only way to use Arena credits is to buy individual character shards or buy Kingpin’s Vault orbs. Kingpin’s Vault orbs do not help unlock any legendary characters, so the best way to farm for legendary characters is to prioritize which characters to farm. As I mentioned above, my recommendation would be to farm for the characters you want and not by the expected order of the events. A potential farming path from the arena store could be Daredevil (for Defenders) -> Drax (for Starlord) -> Juggernaut (for Magneto) -> Quake and/or Shield Security (for Ironman) -> Mordo (for Phoenix). Depending on how Invisible Women and the Fantastic Four develop than Vulture should be included in this order. For example, I farmed Vulture after Juggernaut . It is hard to estimate how fast a farm the Arena store will be because it depends on where you are finishing in Arena. But it should be at least 2.5 shards a day at a bare minimum if you are doing the daily objectives. If you are doing well in arena, this could be between 10-15 shards a day. Raid Credits - The math for Raid is going to be similar to Blitz. There are currently two ways to farm characters in the raid store - 900 for Raid Orbs or 1400 for individual character shards. It is challenging to come up with an estimation for the amount of raid credits a beginner would have. It really depends on what raids your alliance is running and how many nodes you can complete. To keep it fairly simple, I am going to choose 10,000 raid credits a week or 1429 credits a day. This would be from the raid rewards, completing a few nodes each raid, and the Raid Milestones. I think this will seem a lot to some people and not enough for others, but hopefully it is a decent middle ground to get a feel for the numbers. One thing to remember about buying individual character shards from the Raid Store is that only 3 characters show up at any given time, so it can significantly slow down the farm if RNG is not in your favor. With 14 characters in the Raid Store it is estimated that a particular character would show up in the store between 4 to 5 times a week. With the assumption that 1429 credits are generated a day, that is about 5.1 shards a day. But when we factor in the RNG of the store this is lowered to approximately 3.2 shards per day. So, to farm a character from 0 shards to 5* would take about 96 days. With 14 characters in the raid store, that would be 1,344 days to get all the characters to 5*. One thing to keep in mind is that you would not be able to use all of your raid credits for this one character, so buying a different character or Raid Orbs would be an option. This would speed up the total time to farm all the characters. With 14 characters the number of shards of each individual character per Raid Orb is about .64. Using the 1429 Raid credits to buy orbs would generate about 1.02 shards per day for each character. So to take all the characters from 0 shards to 5* would take about 304 days. This is about 23% as fast than if you buy individual character shards for all the characters. I think the takeaways are similar to the Blitz Orb except that there are 4 more character shards per orb, so there is some difference. A general rule of thumb for Raid orbs would be that if you are interested in 3 or more characters then buy orbs. If you are only interested in 2 or 1 characters then buy them individually. War Credits - As I am writing this, the new alliance war leagues are coming into the game, so it will be hard to gauge how many war credits each person will generate a week. Using the old system, 4500 credits a week is reasonable (50% War win rate). This would be a little over 3 purchases a week or 2.33 a day. With this old reward system, this is a very hard farm. However, Pyro is currently the main character to be farming from the store for a legendary, so it is not a major bottleneck for unlocking legendaries. UPDATE: Alliance War Leagues were added to the game and the rewards were dramatically increased for alliances that are able to get promoted. It is hard to estimate the number of credits being generated now since it depends on the alliance league rank. The old rewards are the same as the lowest tier in the new system, so the rewards have gotten a lot better. Section 13 - Conclusions Hopefully this guide gives you the basics for farming all the available legendary characters. As expected, legendaries make up some of the top characters in the game, and make their teams competitive, so it is absolutely worth prioritizing farming for them. I would recommend focusing on Starlord, Nick Fury, and/or Magneto first. Although, if the datamine is true, then Ironman will likely be people’s first legendary. At some point, Phoenix will likely be essential to be competitive in Arena People are still learning a lot about Shuri, and we will be learning a lot about Invisible Women in the next few weeks, but as a beginner it is good to focus on the characters that are known to be game-changing. It is unknown when each legendary event will be available. My recommendation would be to farm for the legendary you know you want to get first, and not just farm based on an estimated legendary rotation. The legendary events schedule is unpredictable on purpose to keep players guessing and to get them to “panic spend” money on the game. Planning ahead is the best way to avoid that scenario. Last, the goal with showing off some of the math is to give beginner’s an idea of how long it will take to get to 5*, and to help give context to the decisions to farm individual character shards or buy the orbs. There is definitely a trade off between speed and value, and that is everyone’s own decision to make. As I said in my first beginner’s guide, there is no right way to play this game. Have fun and play the way you want to. EDIT: If you have any follow-up questions or just want to talk about the guide, come stop by the new discord server for beginners: https://discord.gg/bKAFnJn
  25. Airspeed
    Whats up yall. Somewhat back from the dead thanks to Hapa. Hope everyone is well.
  26. Gaarafield
    Both, can see the forums during the day when I'm not on my gaming pc and once I'm ready to game, I have a look over at discord for news there as well. I feel like much of the discussion I look at in discord is focused directly on games (much more active/interactive conversations) while on the forums, I look at discussions on DHO and life in general (and ocassionally gaming info)...you might say the posts are more focused on being informative on the forums. There are certainly a lot of categories on Discord so I do get lost at times as well.
  27. Mykk
    Check out my new channel, "dho-news-events"
  28. Death33Dealer
    #1 However discord seems so busy. Its hard to discern what's the relevant news versus everything else that's being displayed.
  29.    Vinsent reacted to a post in a topic: Tier 9...after how many years?
  30. gpc_4
    Apologies, mate. We do not have an EU clan. NA only.
  31. Skiddy
    I thank you for this. My wife and I have started the separation process. 19 years of relationship, 15 married going down the shitter. I don't want this, but she is done. A lot of emotion to work though and I, naturally, am very concerned about our 9 year old daughter. I've started therapy and it's beginning to help me realize that I have internalized a lot of negative of which I have no responsibility for. That I do have value and worth and while I do not want this, I have to accept my reality but do not have to accept responsibility for everything negative in our relationship. I can't control the situation and the future, so just let tomorrow come as it will. I'm frustrated because every aspect of married is wonderful. We just don't have an emotional connection anymore. But on all other big things (child, money, etc) we agree and work well together. She has just finally decided that there is no path forward together.
  1. Load more activity


×
×
  • Create New...